Comments on: New HPV vaccine’s side effects http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/2009/09/new-hpv-vaccines-side-effects/ Sat, 27 Nov 2010 00:05:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: logoskaieros http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/2009/09/new-hpv-vaccines-side-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-46 logoskaieros Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:07:44 +0000 http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/?p=64#comment-46 --Don't all vaccines have potential side effects moderate and severe? You might catch the flu from the flu vaccine, but that's a risk you take. The question is whether you'd prefer to risk "nausea, dizziness, blurred vision, convulsions, seizures and hyperventilation" or cervical cancer. --The numbers aren't out for this vaccine, but the report from Gardisil was that there have been 3000 total injuries and 48 deaths from the vaccine. (Can't remember how long Gardisil has been out.) But the stats for HPV and cervical cancer? (http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm) --Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV -- At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives. --in 2008, 11,070 women will be diagnosed with cervical cancer in the U.S. --Cervical cancer has about a 5-25% fatality rate, based on what kind it is and how late in development it's caught. --Lastly, I'm confused about the question "will American young women become UK-like guinea pigs forced to take vaccinations that could kill them even if they aren’t ”promiscuous”" 1) How will mandatory HPV vaccines make Americans "UK-like guinea pigs"? Unless you have statistics comparing the safety of HPV vaccines to all the other vaccines Americans are forced to get (and other ones being considered, like S1H1 vaccines) then this wouldn't make us guinea pigs any more than we already are. And again, last time I checked, all vaccines have potential side effects, including, the thing they're trying to prevent. 2) Vaccine ethics has been a widely-discussed topic in the history of medicine. Taking a vaccine that could kill you to prevent a disease that could kill you is a serious ethical decision, and yet, your commentary makes no mention that this is a topic of concern with all vaccinations, from the flu to polio. –Don’t all vaccines have potential side effects moderate and severe? You might catch the flu from the flu vaccine, but that’s a risk you take. The question is whether you’d prefer to risk “nausea, dizziness, blurred vision, convulsions, seizures and hyperventilation” or cervical cancer.

–The numbers aren’t out for this vaccine, but the report from Gardisil was that there have been 3000 total injuries and 48 deaths from the vaccine.
(Can’t remember how long Gardisil has been out.)

But the stats for HPV and cervical cancer?
(http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm)
–Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV
– At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.
–in 2008, 11,070 women will be diagnosed with cervical cancer in the U.S.
–Cervical cancer has about a 5-25% fatality rate, based on what kind it is and how late in development it’s caught.

–Lastly, I’m confused about the question “will American young women become UK-like guinea pigs forced to take vaccinations that could kill them even if they aren’t ”promiscuous””

1) How will mandatory HPV vaccines make Americans “UK-like guinea pigs”? Unless you have statistics comparing the safety of HPV vaccines to all the other vaccines Americans are forced to get (and other ones being considered, like S1H1 vaccines) then this wouldn’t make us guinea pigs any more than we already are. And again, last time I checked, all vaccines have potential side effects, including, the thing they’re trying to prevent.

2) Vaccine ethics has been a widely-discussed topic in the history of medicine. Taking a vaccine that could kill you to prevent a disease that could kill you is a serious ethical decision, and yet, your commentary makes no mention that this is a topic of concern with all vaccinations, from the flu to polio.

]]> By: EAMD http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/2009/09/new-hpv-vaccines-side-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-37 EAMD Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:39:54 +0000 http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/?p=64#comment-37 Where's the post where you talk about the side effects of cervical cancer? Where’s the post where you talk about the side effects of cervical cancer?

]]> By: katiebgood http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/2009/09/new-hpv-vaccines-side-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-32 katiebgood Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:54:24 +0000 http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/?p=64#comment-32 Okay, so your numbers aren't from that article, as far as I can tell. You'll want to cite those. Also, why are you talking about the UK version that's not approved for the US? This is an American-based website, right? Shouldn't you be talking about the US version of the vaccine? Okay, so your numbers aren’t from that article, as far as I can tell. You’ll want to cite those.

Also, why are you talking about the UK version that’s not approved for the US? This is an American-based website, right? Shouldn’t you be talking about the US version of the vaccine?

]]> By: liveletlive http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/2009/09/new-hpv-vaccines-side-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-27 liveletlive Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:37:59 +0000 http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/?p=64#comment-27 Nowhere does it say that the UK women were forced to take the vaccine, so why would US women be forced to have it? One does not need to be promiscuous to want to look into a vaccine that could prevent a type of cancer. All vaccines have potentially harmful side effects. Girls, please look up all your facts before making a decision regarding protective measures. Then make the decision that is right for you! Nowhere does it say that the UK women were forced to take the vaccine, so why would US women be forced to have it?

One does not need to be promiscuous to want to look into a vaccine that could prevent a type of cancer. All vaccines have potentially harmful side effects. Girls, please look up all your facts before making a decision regarding protective measures. Then make the decision that is right for you!

]]> By: artschoolnerd http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/2009/09/new-hpv-vaccines-side-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-13 artschoolnerd Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:51:49 +0000 http://cblpi.org/senseandsexualityblog/?p=64#comment-13 What does promiscuity have to do with this? A women could catch a cancer causing strain of HPV on her wedding night. What does promiscuity have to do with this? A women could catch a cancer causing strain of HPV on her wedding night.

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